| S | M | T | W | T | F | S |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| « Aug | Oct » | |||||
| 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | |
| 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 |
| 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20 |
| 21 | 22 | 23 | 24 | 25 | 26 | 27 |
| 28 | 29 | 30 | ||||
- communication (22)
- easter (1)
- education (10)
- emotion (28)
- hearing (11)
- interpretation (26)
- listen (13)
- prophet (2)
- religion (42)
- signs (2)
- stroke (15)
- Uncategorized (2)
- wild guesses (18)
- 2. January 2009: AN OLD CHRISTIAN FRIEND JUST TURNED ON ME
- 1. January 2009: THIS IS THE LAW THAT NEVER ENDS
- 28. December 2008: MISGUIDED
- 18. December 2008: A RANT JUST FOR TinaFCD (BUT YOU CAN READ IT, TOO)
- 15. December 2008: ALIEN NATION
- 29. November 2008: 7 REASONS I HATE XMAS
- 23. November 2008: IGNORANCE
- 16. November 2008: I'M TIRED OF POLITICS
- 9. November 2008: WHAT FREAKING ALTERNATE REALITY IS THIS AND HOW DID I GET HERE?
- 2. November 2008: WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO?
Blogroll
- An Apostate's Chapel
- Atheist Revolution
- august5excursion
- Cectic
- Daylight Atheism
- Debunking Christianity
- Decrepit Old Fool
- Dispatches From the Culture Wars
- Evolutionary Middleman
- Friendly Atheist
- God is for Suckers
- Greta Christina's Blog
- No More Hornets
- Pharyngula
- Primordial Blog
- Right To Think
- Spanish Inquisitor
- Stupid Evil Bastard
- Unscrewing the Inscrutable
- Whatever
- You Made Me Say It
THAT FRIENDLESS ROUND-HEADED KID LOSES ANOTHER ONE
Why is it that we are supposed to respect the beliefs of the religious no matter how ridiculous they are and they in turn have absolutely no respect for our beliefs or lack thereof?
My best friend is a devout Seventh Day Adventist. I have been going over to his house on Friday nights and arguing religion with him for quite some time. It was fun but I got tired of it. He wasn’t trying to convert me very hard but he was attempting to draw me in slowly. SDA doctrine is very rigid and dogmatic and essentially excludes all the other branches of Christianity for not abiding by those doctrines. They are the exclusive club among exclusive clubs. Their intense study of the bible appeals to my former sensibilities, however, so I kept going along with him because I really did enjoy examining those doctrines up close and personal. But a few weeks ago when he brought out the Ellen G. White reasons we can’t have fun stuff, my interest flew out the window.
So I told him so.
He was fine with that. No reason to ruin a friendship.
BUT…………..
We cannot meet on Friday nights any longer because that is Sabbath preparation time. Despite our disagreements we were studying the bible and talking about the things of god so we were good for Friday behavior. But not now. Now any other night is acceptable. Friday is god’s night.
And now the absurdity of it all has hit me square in the face.
I have been bending over backwards to accommodate his religious beliefs in this relationship and he hasn’t given one tiny bit in return. When we have gone out to dinner it always has to be a place of his choosing because it has to be vegetarian. I have had dinner at his house many times but he has never come to my house because we don’t do vegetarian dishes. I do all sorts of things on Saturdays but the only thing he’s willing to do is go to church. No matter what I say he always finds a way to add god to it so even if I specifically deny god had anything to do with it, he turns it around so god gets praised anyway.
And I just keep going along with it.
Obviously, I am a glutton for punishment. No, what it really is is desperation. He was the last real friend I had left. I have friends at work but they are only friends while we’re there, never outside the store. There’s no real relationship other than work. This guy was the last person that actually wanted to spend any time with me. So I kept going along even though his religion was getting on my nerves more and more and more.
Even so, some things aren’t worth saving when they become so one sided you can’t tolerate them anymore. When you tell me that common ordinary things I do all the time are an abomination to your personal beliefs but you don’t expect anyone else to live by your beliefs, you’re still managing to condemn my behavior while still pretending you’re being nice by tolerating me.
Unfortunately, when I let you do that to me constantly, I’m pretending, too.
So it’s all over but the death rattle.
And that’s a shame. Religion divides people. Any religion. You’re either one of us or one of them. If you’re one of them, we can tolerate you if you behave a certain way and give us a certain amount of respect and lip service. If you don’t, well, who needs you?
I don’t have any friends. I’m going to have to change my name to Charlie Brown. But I think that’s copyrighted.
Rats!
5. October 2008 at 20:24
I’ll be your friend. This is an amazing post man, I feel so bad for you. I’m feeling pretty bad about everything at the moment though, so I don’t know if it really means that much. Anyway, if it means anything, I really do feel the same as you right now. Totally fucking alone.
6. October 2008 at 16:05
Over the last 10 years or so I have drifted farther and farther from my christian friends from college, so I understand what you’re going through.
When it begins, we’re quick to just let the little slights go by… after all that’s what friends are for, right? Christian weddings and such, well, I should not put my beliefs before my friends’ happiness, should I? But as time goes by and we slowly begin to realize that everything our supposed friends do or say is colored by this fantasy life they’re interested in imposing on us.
That they would not return the favor. It’s a hard pill to swallow. But folks like you and sikanrong above and all the millions of non-believers on the internet; we can stick together, and without any preconceived religious restrictions.
We’re not alone. There are more and more of us every day. The end result of education and time is the lessening of religions grip on us all. Hang in there!
6. October 2008 at 19:54
I agree with you on most of this, but your point about only going to places that have vegetarian food, and not eating at your house because you refuse to cook vegetarian isn’t that crazy.
The reason he’s a vegetarian doesn’t make much sense, but if you won’t make food he eats, it makes sense that he won’t eat at your house.
6. October 2008 at 22:42
But you see, that’s the point. I have to change what I do to accommodate his religious practices to get him to associate with me. It isn’t that big of an issue, it’s just the idea of it. I don’t see why anyone should be allowed to say to me, “As long as you play by my religious rules, I’ll associate with you. But , if you don’t abide by my rules, it’s game over.” Why should I have to honor his religion in order to experience his friendship?
I do indeed find more acceptance here online than I do out in the real world.
Totally alone? No, I have a cat.
15. October 2008 at 05:01
You aren’t alone man. I believe agnostic and atheists are actually in the majority. It is just that a vast majority of people still go services and fake belief just so their spouse, family, coworkers won’t harass them. Is that any excuse for not standing up for your beliefs, no. But, I understand why they choose to do it. But, if you were to allow people to declare their true feelings about religion and god without any possibility of recourse, there would be tremendous amounts of people who think it is all a load of crap. Which it is…
9. December 2008 at 07:06
Every time I ask a question, if it has any tiny bit of a hint of religion, my family thinks I’m still searching for god and jesus. Gawd!